Good afternoon. One of the questions I have for readers is whether they think the CCRPI grades are useful for parents. What do you think?
Wayne Washington here. I cover state education policy for The AJC. Looking forward to answering your questions about the report card.
Here is the background on the scorers, which were released Monday morning. The College & Career Ready Performance Index for 2012-2013 school year. The index is Georgia’s new accountability system that replaced the Adequate Yearly Progress or AYP ratings.
We met with officials of DOE for a primer on the CCRPI release.
The CCRPI grades schools on a 1 to 100 score, which is seen as more parent friendly than AYP.
“We all know what a 100 is on a test,” said state Department of Education spokesman Matt Cardoza. “If the score is a 65, there are some things that need to be improved.”
The single score each school earns represents mounds of data in three categories, each carrying a different weight.
Kidskey, i agree with you. I think it is hard for parents to drill deep, I think it is easy to understand the overall score, but I think the weights and the categories are complex.
@Dunwoody, The state is only just looking now for a company to create the new state tests. It seems critical to me that Georgia invest in tests that are more than a single snapshot. We need tests that can reflect progress, which -- at least for me -- requires pre and post testing. But that does not come cheap and I am not sure Georgia will invest enough in buy such tests.
Grayson: I know the state Department of Education is hoping parents find the information useful in making decisions about where to enroll your child (or where not to enroll them). They're also hoping school and district leaders use them to make improvements.
Grayson, Do you mean you got a report for just your child or just your school?
@Grayson, In talking with DOE earlier this week, it was clear that the agency believes the scores will help school leaders recognize weaknesses., It may be that a grading system can' do both -- provide information that is accessible and easy for parents while providing enough depth to guide and inform school improvement.
Lynn: My understanding is the goal is to make sure schools with higher numbers of special education students, English learners and poor students aren't penalized.
@Kidsrkey, That is one of the issues in Georgia -- there has evidence in the past that our A/B students score lower on the SAT and ACT than other A/B students. I think the state has been largely focused on the struggling learners -- of which there are many -- and has not focused on how to push the high achievers to the next level.
Jerryeads: we're going to be taking a look at how poverty comes into play. Lots of folks hated the No Child Left Behind measurement system because they felt it simply labeled poor schools.
Jerry, Welcome. Share your expertise with folks -- I think we do need to stress how much these scores reflect the abilities and strengths that the students bring with them on day one of their education. Not sure we have a method yet that teases out what the school adds to what the child brings.
Hi Diane -- I can answer that one. We ranked some schools, but only district-by-district. Meaning, we ranked schools within Cobb, withing Gwinnett, etc. We didn't do a system-by-system rank so Decatur must have done that independently.
@Jerry, Do you think the parents of advanced kids are really on their own in providing enrichment?
Diane -- of the top state high schools, all three were magnets.
@Kidsrkey, But did the state really measure progress. I have little faith in the measure of progress the state used.
Given that disadvantage to parents with smart kids in a school
NGeorgiaNow: I know the focus on the achievement gap is a link to the old NCLB measurement, which sought to make sure schools paid attention to that.
@Jerry, Sorry that posted without me finishing. How can we redesign schools so advanced kids in poor schools have a better education? Those are often the kids moving to charter schools. But is there any things parents can do who want to stay with their local school?
I have to say that if were a parent in a school that scored in the 60s, I would be quite concerned. And there are a significant number of schools in metro down in the 60s.
Next year, the state will include a star rating system on school climate and another on school efficiency. What do you all think about that. Useful?
@jerry, That is the challenge with urging parents to hang in there, that reforms are coming and their school will improve. They can wait so long their kid has graduated. We recently discussed tracking in schools . While I believe lower income kids fare better in a mixed classroom setting, I think that the higher performing kid suffer unless the class is very, very well run. I hear about differential learning all the time, but teachers tell me that is hard to pull off.